World famous embryologist PZ Myers proves the Quran is man made


28 Jun 2011

Embryology, Miracles / I'jaz

PZ Myers


This video blog (vlog) from The Rationalizer uses a clip showing PZ Myers discussing embryological material from the Qurʾān with a Muslim, who is trying to present it as miraculously accurate and therefore proof of the text coming from God.  (A very short clip is available on the Portal here; a more complete version is on the Portal here.)

Using Wehr’s Arabic dictionary and Lane’s Lexicon (neither of which, notably, are what Qurʾānic scholars would use for seventh century Arabic), The Rationalizer looks at the meaning of thumma and a closely associated word, fa, in this verse of the Qurʾān (41.10-12).  He also examines the book to which the off-screen Muslim refers, which he points out is a particular edition of Moore’s book, with sections rewritten by al-Zindani.  His purpose is to try to show how some Muslims have sought to present the material as miraculous, a form of iʿjāz.


Although some Muslims interpret Qurʾānic material on embryology as miraculous, others who do not. The original Muslim (Adnan Rashid, formerly of iERA) who is talking to PZ Myers is not interpreting the Qurʾān in a way that Qurʾānic scholars would find acceptable. PZ Myer’s comment that the Qurʾān is wrong only pertains to the topic of embryology and the question of miraculousness. The Rationalizer does not specifically talk about Islam, beyond showing a translation of a short segment of the Qurʾān.

PZ Myers is himself an embryologist, and his representation that bones and flesh/muscles are developing together is accepted by most scholars.  The difficulty of absolute truth here is that the Qurʾān, and those talking about the Qurʾān, are not talking about a specific part of the body or time of development.  The Rationalizer shows very short segments of the edition of Moore’s book, which may or may not support his suppositions — the presentation is not particularly clear.

About TheRationalizer

The Rationalizer is the user name for an anonymous vlogger (videos on YouTube since 2010) who began learning about Islam after he started learning Arabic in the UK.  Raised by agnostic and atheist parents, he also attended a school with required Christian assemblies, which provided a grounding in religious beliefs.  For a time as an adult he investigated Islam with a view to converting, but the claims for miracles in the Qurʾān (iʿjāz) led him to learn more about science and ancient beliefs, which ultimately led him down the path of becoming an atheist.

He works in the information technology industry as a business analyst and programmer.

To date (May 2015) he has created 25 videos about Islam, generally discussing errors in internet videos, often those associated with iʿjāz.  (The ones addressing science and Islam may be found on the Portal using the search feature in the upper right corner of the site.)

In addition to his YouTube account, the Rationalizer is active on social media such as Twitter and the forums at